Showing posts with label Charlie Wilson. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Charlie Wilson. Show all posts

Sunday, January 6, 2008

Mover Mike Keeps Getting It Wrong, This Time About Charlie Wilson

I was going to respond to Mover Mike's little post on Charlie Wilson's War, but gosh darnnit... I've been banned from Mover Mike's little blog, since he really can't handle any real arguments against his little rants, such as "Global Warming is a myth and you hate the troops if you don't support Bush."

  1. Dr. Jack Wheeler's blog was rather interesting and provided some valuable information on the Afghan/Russian war and the movie itself. Thank you Mover Mike for bringing this tidbit of info to our attention. Too bad you didn't shut the fuck up after quoting Doc Wheeler. It would have spared me from vomiting after reading your opinion, once again.

  2. After making such a stand about how flawed the movie is, Mover Mike ended by stating that "Charlie Wilson who died in 1997" when in fact... Charlie Wilson is actually still alive! Go figure Mover Mike. I just listened to Charlie speak on NPR last month, you can also read about his little biography on biography.com.

  3. Mover Mike said, "he fought against the CIA elites who were wrong then as they have been, at least publicly, so many times since. It's a shame that the movie isn't deeper." This is true today as it ever was. It is unfortunate that we do not have enough movies floating around that are capable of exposing the illicit wars and lies that plague the White House while hiding behind excuses that the CIA didn't do it's job good 'nuff!
  4. Mover Mike quoted Dr. Wheeler as saying, "Charlie Wilson's heroism should be "a deep embarrassment to the party of Pelosi Galore and Lost Harry Reid, the party who apologizes for America's existence and has neither the spine nor will to defend her." Moover Mike, and Wheeler, misconstrue the public’s (democrats) acknowledgment of our government's sins and wrong doings as an unmerited apology to the world. This is not the case. It is called accountability and responsibility. When you have a rogue government engaging in acts that further it’s own agenda at the expense of other people’s lives in other nations… then fuck yeah, that’s well worthy of an apology and maybe… just a little bit of fucking humbleness.

    See, that’s something neocons simply don’t have, morals and a “give-a-shit” concern for people of other nations. It’s more, “I got mine, sucks to be you” from the conservative right. Bidness as usual. Yet you touch on a truth, that the democratic party is spineless and does need to be bitch-slapped into acting more accordingly.

    The difference is that the real accordance is no more than bringing a real gun to a knife fight where we can finally bury the republican party and their corrupt agenda. With over 700 American bases in over 130 countries… Move Mike and Doc Wheeler see no reason to apologize to anyone, Arab or American, for our foreign policy overt (and especially covert)actions or for the reciprocal and understandable blowback that comes our way in the form of 9/11, etc.

    How many more Americans will die from blowback before Mover Mike's POS party decides that maybe... just maybe an apology is called for. An apology for doing the wrong thing to poor people of other nations, to darker skinned people of other nations. In Neoconville... there is no such thing. Imperial Hubris my friends. That's your motto.

  5. Mover Mike ends his story by stating, "The final scene is one of Wilson seeking $1 million for schools in Afghanistan, after we spent $500 million on weapons. He was turned down because "no one gives a shit about schools" for Afghanis. That seems to be the Movie's lesson for Americans to the question, "Why do they hate us?" We didn't spend enough money building them back up so the Taliban (Hamas or Palastinians, your choice) marched in." Not only does Mover Mike equate the Taliban with Hamas and Palestinians, he might as well say "Sand Niggers, Rag Heads... take your choice" since they are all the same to neocons of Mover Mike's caliber.

    Let me point you to a little page from a little book written in 2000 (pre 9/11 for those who aren't paying attention) by a guy called Chalmers Johnson. The book is called Blowback. On page XIV Johnson said the following, regarding Afghanistan, the CIA and why fanatics like bin Laden BEGAN hating our foreign policy. The section I'm pointing at is highlighted at the bottom of the page.


GOD FORBID if neocons ever questioned the acts of our governments foreign policy.

Oh sure, state that our domestic policy is flawed where the best solution is to immediately initiate a call for a stronger Regressive Tax (for those of you who don't know what that means, it's basically that... the richer you get the lower your percentage of taxes you are expected to pay, i.e. Social Security Tax).

Neocons like Mover Mike have hijacked this country and patriotism to the point that any questioning of our government's actions is tantamount to treason. They hide behind parotted declarations of "Smaller Government! Smaller Government!" Yet they are the first to inflate the hell out of government in order to meet their own wants and ends (especially if you're a fag who's picking out wedding gowns or a woman in need of an abortion. March on Christian soldier Mover Mike.)

Again Mover Mike, thank you for the introduction of Dr. Jack Wheeler. Honestly, Wheeler's words were quite informative and highly enlightening. Good food for thought. But when you use the words of others who are more educated than you to launch into an opinion of your own... somehow... you don't seem quite as astute.

Thursday, December 20, 2007

Charlie Wilson's War

A movie is coming out Friday called Charlie Wilson's War. Charlie's a Congressman who helps in the U.S. funding of the Afghan Mujahideen Freedom Fighters who are fighting the invading Soviets. Think of Mr. Smith goes to Ho Chi Minh to help fight Imperialist Americans, but with mustaches and Vodka.

Slate's review on the movie Staring Tom Hanks, Julia Roberts and Philip Seymour Hoffman.

You can read up on Charlie here.

For those of you who don't know about the U.S.'s connection and propping up of bin Laden, it might help for you to read some history.

  • 1979 – US supplies Stinger missiles and tons of ammunition to fight the Russians, 6 months before the Russians invade.

  • 1979 - USSR goes to war with Afghanistan after US manages to get the damn thing rolling. Those in Afghanistan are known as Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen insurgents. (note key word… “insurgents”)

  • 1989 February – Russians withdrawl.

  • 1991 – The Soviet Afghan war leads to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Over 1 million Afghans were killed. Among the Afghans killed there were also 3 million Afghans maimed or wounded who were mostly citizens. There were also 1.2 million Afghans disabled consisting of Mujahideen as well as citizens.

Irrigation systems, crucial to an arid country like Afghanistan had been destroyed by aerial bombing and strafing. In the worst year of the war, 1985, according to a survey conducted by Swedish relief experts, well over half of all the farmers who remained in Afghanistan had their fields bombed, and over a 1/4 had their irrigation systems destroyed and their livestock shot by Soviet or Afghan Communist troops.

The population of Afghanistan's second largest city, Kandahar, had been reduced from 200,000 before the war to no more than 25,000 inhabitants, following a months-long campaign carpet bombing and bulldozing by the Soviets in 1987.

Land mines had killed 25,000 Afghans during the war and another 10-15 million land mines, most planted by Soviets and the Afghan government sources, were left scattered throughout the countryside to kill and maim.

The US decided not to help with reconstruction of the country and instead the US handed over the interests of the country to its allies: Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Pakistan quickly took advantage of their new charitable opportunity and forged relations with warlords and later the Taliban to secure trade interests and routes.

A more little history of the war