Before you read this, first… go read Ballot Measure 49 (Short Version, Long Version ) for yourself so you won't be swayed by any of my rabid hate mongering against the right wing neocons as I force the bile down while I read to you Arguments (Lies) in Opposition in the Oregon Voters Pamphlet.
Let's take a look at the lies in Opposition.
- First on the list by Senator Larry George "Measure 49 will allow state and local government to take your home and property without compensation." They didn't even make it into the pamphlet 10 sentences without lying. SHeesh! First of all, the state doesn't take your property. Second of all... the state doesn't take your property. If you own a farm, filed a Measure 37 claim and 49 passes... guess what... you still own your property. I think Larry is bearing false witness.
- Lie #2 - "Current Oregon law requires government to pay you fair value when it reduces the value or takes away your right to use your property..." This is the 2nd argument, written by .. hmmm let's see here... Oregon Family Farm Association PAC. A PAC! Not all farmers feel the way Matt does. The state doesn't "take away your right to use your property" Matt. It's still your property ol' buddy, and you my friend, are not telling the truth here. I think your pants ... are on fire Mattster.
- NEEEEEXT! Argument #3 - No wait, we're still on the 2nd damn argument. Matt's on a role here. Looks like we're here for a lonnng long time. Or at least till I'm ready to watch Heroes or Lost! Lie #2 for Matt is "Measure 49 is a radical change to state law that allows the government to take your property without any compensation." EEEEEEDERT [sound of Freddies shopping cart leaving the parking lot] Sorry Matt, I call bullshit. Again... the state, county, gestapo, feds, unca bush, Dubya... none of them "take your property" much less, take it without compensation. I'm afraid your pants are still on fire Mr. Cyrus.
- ok... on to Argument #3 - Woah Nelly! WAITAMINUTE... I just found my left slipper, and Matt is still full of it! I should have read ahead before I sat down. Damnit! "We will have to pay the government’s attorneys and appraisers to get our property back" Lie, the big bad wolf never took your property. "Those of us who have permits to build a house or two on our property will have those permits wiped out, and be forced to start all over." Lie again, none of the Measure 37 claimants start over again. This lie has been used up and down the blogs it's pathetic. I verified it with a simple call to the state. Jeepers... they even told me the truth and admitted that people were lying to sway voters. Gasp! Republicans lying?? First the mens room incidents and now... lying?? Oh.. the Humanity.
- If I knew a little more about the $40,000 / $80,000 farmhouse rule I'd call BS on Cyrus' claim that "We will have to prove that we made $80,000 per year in order to build a farmhouse to live in on our property." ... screw it, I call bullshit. This site sums up the statute pretty nicely however this page is the official document... if you can stomach it. Do a search (or "find function) for $80 on both pages to find it. Basically, on high value farm land a farmer needs to proove he's a farm, in order to build a farmhouse, by earning $80,000 gross annual income. This statute exists, but it's not a 49 argument. Basically, a red herring. Use a real truth, that has nothing to do with the argument, to sway people's minds. Liar Mr. Cyrus.
- Next is Glenn Cloyd, President of the Oregon Sportsmen Assn. "Measure 49 could cost Oregonians their whole life-savings when government takes their property without compensation." See.. these hillbillies think that if you say something enough times it's true. Firstly, the government is not taking away any property. Secondly, it's rather difficult to believe that a family will loose their "WHOLE LIFE-SAVINGS" after 49 passes. "But Gramma... What about all of that land you and Grammpa have?? There's 125 acres you guys bought for $15,000 40 years ago." "Shhhhhhh! Shuddup you little brat!" "SMACK" See, when Jethro is ready to move out of the farm land, he wants to sell his land to developers to make even more money so they can leave some greenbacks for their little kiddies, Buffy and Jodi, who don't reeeeally feel like working for a living. So now.. they will only be able to make $3 million instead of a little more million. I think that's fair all for the sake of keeping Oregon green after they head out to Florida. As it goes, investment in farm land beats out the stock market almost every time.
And it goes on and on and on. More of the same. Vacuous Rhetoric spread by the right wing agenda. Am I biased? Damn straight I am. Almost as biased as I am against KKK members and neo nazis. A snake is a snake and bias doesn't matter when you can call bullshit when the right continues to follow in the footsteps of Karl Rove.
March on Christian Soldiers.
2 comments:
Hello batmantempest
Caught your comments on the "truth about measure 49" blog, and also here.
Just wanted to let you know this isn't a conservative vs progressive battle overall. I am as conservative as they come, and support Measure 49. And I assure you, I am not alone. You might say this is an urban sprawl without wise planning vs rural land protection and wise use of water and ag land resources issue. And that crosses party lines.
You might celebrate the occasional unity we actually have in this country by leaving out the right wing vs left wing bit. Jus' a suggestion....
Hello Anonymous
I hate to admit that you're right... but in essence, you are correct. This isn't necessarily a right vs left argument, and this issue does cross party lines.
But notice who just so happens to be for 49 and who happens to be against it. Let us examine the stereotypes of both left and right.
If we were to pick an issue, any controversial issue at all, be it abortion, minimum wage, Mexicans, healthcare, gays, Clinton's Penis, Iraq... you name it, if we were to pick any politically charged issue under the sun, it is inevitable that the super majority of republicans will gravitate towards one side of the fence while the super majority of the democrats will find themselves on the other side of that same fence.
No discussion or arguing is necessary, it’s just the way it is. It’s the way the cards fall.
Now, occasionally, we’ll find a couple of people on the respective opposite side of that same fence on a couple of specific issues. eg. Congressman Pete Defazio in Eugene is a rabid democrat yet he’s also an avid gun nut, so much the case that I hear he’s this close to putting a rifle rack on the back of his car window.
Personally, I’m for the death penalty and I also don’t mind those Indian high school mascots. I’m also not too crazy about those “hate crime” laws either, feeling that all victims should be treated equally regardless of color or sexual preference, which is in direct alignment of dear old Shrub, which I’m not too happy about. But, Se la-vi.
I also don’t know where I stand on the whole illegal immigration issue as well. And when it comes to ballot measure 50, I’m not as happy about the amendment as most glazed eye dems. And, do you remember the WTO riots in Seattle? Remember those dirty hippies up there? Well, they were out there in the streets picketing right next to a bunch of farmers. Go figure.
So… dear reader, what I’m trying to say is that, whether we like it or not, we sometimes find ourselves in bed with mixed company. And, unfortunately, the majority of those on one side of the fence happen to be affiliated to a certain party. That’s why republicans refer to those who protest the war as “Moonbats.” In fact… as you well know, my fine republican friend, that republicans pretty much apply the Moonbat stamp of disapproval to anyone who disagrees with them and mentions “oil” and “war” in the same breath.
So, I am sorry for referring to those that oppose 49 as the evil, bad sith republicans… but it’s just the way that it is.
But, I’m curious… with soooo many republicans against 49, why do you choose to support it? Surely you must have your reasons. And surely, you must have experienced the mighty anger from the right (more so than the left) when it comes to you coming out of the closet and telling your friends that you support 49.
I’d seriously like to know.
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